brother is hadees ko kam az kam 40 muhadaseen ny sakht zaeef kaha hai aur is k zauf k waja main bta chuka hun ap chaho to us k details de ja sakti hain
ترک رفع یدین کی روایات بے شک ضعیف ہیں لیکن ضعف کی جو وجوہات آپ نے بیان کی وہ محل نظر ہیں ابو بکر بن عیاش صحیح بخاری اور عاصم بن کلیب صحیح مسلم کے راوی ہیں۔۔۔۔
bilkul sahi kaha bhai apny lakin asim bin kuleeb per ali bin madini k jarah khas hai k un k munfarid rivayat qabool nhi or abu bakar bin ayash k us rivayat main khata imam ahmed bin hanbal ny bare saf bayan k hai us k liye juze rafa dain aur marfat ul sunan wal asar dekhi ja sakte hai
Al-Bara' ibn Azib Radi Allahu Anhu se rivayat hai ki Rasoollallah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam jab Namaz shuru kartey to apney Dono haath kaaano ke kareeb tak utahtey phir dobara haath nahi uthatey Sunan Abu Dawud, Vol1, 746
Hazrat Alqama Radi Allahu Anhu se rivayat hai ki Abdullah bin Masood Radi Allahu Anhu se kaha ki kya main tumko Rasoollallah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam ki tarah namaz parh kar na batauu phir unhoney namaz parhi to sirf Ek martaba haath uthaye ( yani takbeer tahrima ke waqt) Sunan Abu Dawud, Vol1, 744
Hadith proof: Rafa yadein ke saath Namaz padna
Abdullah bin Umar Radi-Allahu-Anhu se rivayat hai ki Rasoollallah Sallallhu-Alaihi-Wasallam jab namaz parhtey to apney kaandhon tak apney dono haath uthatey aur isi tarah ruku mein jatey waqt aur ruku se sir uthatey waqt apney dono haath uthatey they aur Sazdon ke darmiyan rafa yadein nahi kartey they Sahih Muslim, Vol 1, 861
Note: Yaad rahey ki ye Hadith 15 rivayato se sahi sabit hai aur ye main nahi kah raha , Saudi Arab ke awqaf se Authenticated web site par is Hadith ki sahi rivayat 72 Shawahid aur 29 Takhrij ke saath mojud hain
Sheikh Nasir al-Albani said about the above hadith - The truth is that this hadith is "SAHIH" and its Isnad is also sahih on the criteria of Sahih Muslim. (Mishqat al Masabih, Tahqiq Nasir Albani, Volume 1, Page No. 254, Hadith Number. 809, FN. 3)
15 mein se ek sahi raviyat ki chain main aapko deta hu aur ismein se ek bhi ravi zaeef nahi hai
(1) عبد الله بن مسعود | (2) علقمة بن قيس | | (3) عبد الرحمن بن الأسود | | | (4) عاصم بن كليب | | | | (5) سفيان بن سعيد | | | | | (6) وكيع بن الجراح | | | | | | (7) محمد بن إسماعيل | | | | | | | (8) أحمد بن محمد | | | | | | | | (9) محمد بن محمد | | | | | | | | | (10) أحمد بن الحسين | | | | | | | | | | (11) الكتاب: السنن الكبرى للبيهقي [الحكم: إسناده متصل، رجاله ثقات]
Conclusion: Isliye Allah ke bando Rafa yadein ke saath namaz padna aur uskey bina namaz padna dono Aap Sallallahu alihi wasalam ki sunnat hain , isliye jhagda na karo Aapas mein bhai bhai ban kar raho, ilm sikho aur kisi topic par achchi tarah khud analysis karo , kyunki aajkal har jagah firqa parasti chal rahi hai , aksar maulana apney firqey ko suppport wali hadith aur baat to bata dete hain magar wo hadith aur baat nahi batatey jo iska dusra pahlu hai.
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Narrated Al-Bara' ibn Azib When the Apostle of Allah peace_be_upon_him began prayer, he raised his hands up to his ears, then he did not repeat. Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 3, Number 0749
Narrated Alqamah Radi Allahu Anhu Abdullah ibn Mas'ud said: Should I pray in the way the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) had performed it? He said: He prayed, raising his hands only once ( on takbeer tahrima) Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 3, Number 0747
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Hadith proof: Rafa yadein ke bina Namaz padna
Al-Bara' ibn Azib Radi Allahu Anhu se rivayat hai ki Rasoollallah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam jab Namaz shuru kartey to apney Dono haath kaaano ke kareeb tak utahtey phir dobara haath nahi uthatey
Sunan Abu Dawud, Vol1, 746
Hazrat Alqama Radi Allahu Anhu se rivayat hai ki Abdullah bin Masood Radi Allahu Anhu se kaha ki kya main tumko Rasoollallah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam ki tarah namaz parh kar na batauu phir unhoney namaz parhi to sirf Ek martaba haath uthaye ( yani takbeer tahrima ke waqt)
Sunan Abu Dawud, Vol1, 744
Hadith proof: Rafa yadein ke saath Namaz padna
Abdullah bin Umar Radi-Allahu-Anhu se rivayat hai ki Rasoollallah Sallallhu-Alaihi-Wasallam jab namaz parhtey to apney kaandhon tak apney dono haath uthatey aur isi tarah ruku mein jatey waqt aur ruku se sir uthatey waqt apney dono haath uthatey they aur Sazdon ke darmiyan rafa yadein nahi kartey they
Sahih Muslim, Vol 1, 861
Note: Yaad rahey ki ye Hadith 15 rivayato se sahi sabit hai aur ye main nahi kah raha , Saudi Arab ke awqaf se Authenticated web site par is Hadith ki sahi rivayat 72 Shawahid aur 29 Takhrij ke saath mojud hain
Sheikh Nasir al-Albani said about the above hadith -
The truth is that this hadith is "SAHIH" and its Isnad is also sahih on the criteria of Sahih Muslim.
(Mishqat al Masabih, Tahqiq Nasir Albani, Volume 1, Page No. 254, Hadith Number. 809, FN. 3)
Hadith:
http://www.islamweb.net/hadith/display_hbook.php?bk_no=184&hid=639&pid=113995
Asnaad: ( yahase se aapko sahi Rivayat ki chain mil jayegi)
http://www.islamweb.net/hadith/dyntree1.php?type=2&sid=1157&bk_no=184&cid=1372
Shawahid:
http://www.islamweb.net/hadith/hadithServices.php?type=2&cid=1372&sid=1157
15 mein se ek sahi raviyat ki chain main aapko deta hu aur ismein se ek bhi ravi zaeef nahi hai
(1) عبد الله بن مسعود
| (2) علقمة بن قيس
| | (3) عبد الرحمن بن الأسود
| | | (4) عاصم بن كليب
| | | | (5) سفيان بن سعيد
| | | | | (6) وكيع بن الجراح
| | | | | | (7) محمد بن إسماعيل
| | | | | | | (8) أحمد بن محمد
| | | | | | | | (9) محمد بن محمد
| | | | | | | | | (10) أحمد بن الحسين
| | | | | | | | | | (11) الكتاب: السنن الكبرى للبيهقي [الحكم: إسناده متصل، رجاله ثقات]
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Conclusion: Isliye Allah ke bando Rafa yadein ke saath namaz padna aur uskey bina namaz padna dono Aap Sallallahu alihi wasalam ki sunnat hain , isliye jhagda na karo Aapas mein bhai bhai ban kar raho, ilm sikho aur kisi topic par achchi tarah khud analysis karo , kyunki aajkal har jagah firqa parasti chal rahi hai , aksar maulana apney firqey ko suppport wali hadith aur baat to bata dete hain magar wo hadith aur baat nahi batatey jo iska dusra pahlu hai.
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English Translation:
Narrated Al-Bara' ibn Azib When the Apostle of Allah peace_be_upon_him began prayer, he raised his hands up to his ears, then he did not repeat.
Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 3, Number 0749
Narrated Alqamah Radi Allahu Anhu Abdullah ibn Mas'ud said: Should I pray in the way the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) had performed it? He said: He prayed, raising his hands only once ( on takbeer tahrima)
Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 3, Number 0747
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